Olson was FMV. Give Swanson credit for being healthy for the last couple of seasons. @Run. Now lets say you call Ticketmaster and they tell you that you will get one of the four tickets, but you dont know which one until you get to the ball game. Super Two means you are arb eligible a year earlier, not that you get an extra year of service time. To an SP, well, it seems awfully risky. But not to worry, I did that for you. A year ago, the Super 2 status was set a 2 years and 116 days, which is about normal, even low in recent years with most Super 2 status cutoffs falling in the 130s. Musgrove also signed a team friendly extension w/his hometown Padres. Strider returned from his injury in 2020 and was later picked in the fourth round of the MLB 2020 draft by the Atlanta Braves, with whom he eventually signed a contract. Period. But it would certainly not be enough to be among the top 22 percent of players in that class (the lowest the Super Two cutoff has been since 2009 is 2 years and 115 days after 2019). $1M (2024) That is between 2 and 3 years. His FA years would go up from than final season of arbitration eligibility. The idea that getting only modest performance for $20m in the last 3 years of the deal will hurt the Braves much at all, though, doesnt follow. His previously strained left oblique muscle was fine as he threw off the mound on Sunday and on flat ground on Monday. It was a tough choice passing on the Yankees, but he wanted to experience college. Mike Soroka, if he would have been extended at the same time in his career than Strider just was, would have two years of no value add to the team due to his Achilles injuries. Strong post NashvilleJ: thanks for mentioning the agent relationship angle. Name those Braves fans who felt that way. I bet the Yankees are wishing Judge took that extension earlier this year. Im pretty sure these always lean more favorably to position players. In terms of his personal life, he is in a relationship with Maggie, a young and lovely girl. Genuinely curious. Look at post-season history over the last twenty or thirty years, and youll see the Braves usually getting the day games. If you add those up, you get $77M. For the fans sake, I hope ownership realizes the value of spending some money and they re-sign Swanson. It is purely a way to get extra money in the hands of 0-3 year service time players who are not arbitration eligible and subject to receiving the league minimum. All of this doesnt even take into consideration if hes not an inner-circle HOF pitcher and has a fall off like Trevor Rogers. The backend of this deal reminds me of Wil Myers, only in the sense that you have 3 years of $20M+ that start multiple years after the extension was reached. There were talks mentioned in August and no deal was done. The Braves have no SS prospects at the upper mil levels. Spencer Robert Strider (born October 28, 1998) is an American professional baseball pitcher for the Atlanta Braves of Major League Baseball (MLB). Its Swanson or bust for them. Then you see it wrong, they are ALREADY PAYING HIM top dollar in this deal. The Braves arent getting a $100 ticket and hoping for either behind the dugouts or in the suite. In Braves speak, that means hes hitting FA. Lets say Strider goes to every All-Star game for the next 6 years, wins two Cy Young awards, finishes top 10 every other season, and avoids injury. SPENCER AGUIAR. This new contract not only finally topples that dated mark (in decisive fashion), it also surpasses the established extension records for pitchers with two to three years of service time (Blake Snells five-year, $50MM deal) and even with three to four years of service (Sandy Alcantaras five-year, $56MM deal). You are also assuming he doesnt fall off a cliff statistically like Trevor Rogers this year where he went from a 2.64 ERA to 5.47 ERA or for the analytical types he went from a 2.55 FIP (2021) to 4.36 FIP (2022). If there is a publication that picked the Mets, please send the link. Should have let Strasburg leave. Strider is represented by Frontline. Kind of like the super 2 guys getting that fourth arb year. In 2023, Strider will earn a base salary of $1,000,000, while carrying a total salary of $1,000,000. You didnt just say Strider was better then Degrom and Bauer. Spencer Strider undoubtedly earns a substantial sum of money from his sole career in baseball. The way they draft and are able to get their players so sign long term for under market value is second to none. Id hate to be him if he becomes human in Atlanta over the next 6 years. Love numbers, very structured, feel a level of entitlement with your degree, but your education built knowledge in a subsection of society that doesnt resonate with people outside your industry, so you come off like a pompous no-it-all, but really you have no true foundational advanced level education to help you structure arguments or support your statements! Rookie starter Spencer Strider set a Braves record with 16 strikeouts in eight dominant innings during a 3-0 win over the Rockies on Thursday night. I wouldnt just throw around $140M in proven assets for $140M in prospects. Prior to this deal, the five-year, $35MM contract Madison Bumgarner signed with the Giants more than a decade ago stood as the record extension for a pitcher with between one and two years of service time. Especially not when youre right, lol. Not sure who he /them is/are, but I betcha Freddie wishes he wouldve had him/them last off season. Well put DMC. Speak for yourself. So what? The only thing accurate is the potentially, saved, and money. the official stats partner of the NBA, NHL and MLB. It would definitely be an anomaly if the Braves hit on all this extensions. I believe 2027 is the final year of that infamous TV deal that hasnt been the cash cow many other lesser franchises have benefitted from. Now sign 7! But if we are anywhere near the same cutoff after next season that we were after 2021, Strider will miss Super 2 status by 110 days roughly or almost 4 months of being on the roster. The Atlanta #Braves today signed RHP Charlie Morton to a one-year contract worth $20 million for the 2023 season, with a $20 million club option for 2024 that does not include a buyout. What would 2 years of Cole cost, instead of 9/324m? Good deal for both sides. Research when he was drafted by the Yankees coming out of High School. But most importantly it sets bad precedent for the rest of the league for one team to save a few million dollars. The net effect of them not manipulating his service time is that they get an extra draft pick as per the new CBA. Why dont you whine about how well the Braves evaluate, draft, and develop their players while youre trolling. He will fall off before he ever gets those record numbers. $1M (2024) Agree MFF. His arbitration would have been in line with the highest ever. Its not if Strider has TJ surgery, but when he will have it. Not coincidentally, DET will be picking high in the Draft (again). Also, Swanson played all 60 games in 2020 and he missed only 2 games total in the 21-22 seasons. Drafting and developing pitchers is a crap shoot no doubt and Atlanta has had their failures along the way. Kris Bryant and Cody Bellinger were Super Twos, for instance, being arb eligible four times as opposed to the usual three. As much as the Acuna and Albies deals were highway robbery they still havent been good cause theyve been hurt or half what they were. He doesnt even need to have constant injury problems. Spencer Strider has a net worth of $1,167,934. Braves righty Spencer Strider has been put on the 15-day injured list with a strained oblique muscle. The Braves got a significant discount on the 2 FA years. In your case, the look that you should recognize for all the times you see it with that kind of personality is disgust followed by derisive laughter. A Super Two is in the top 22 percent (in terms of service time not performance) of all players in their service class during the offseason that they have at least 2 but less than 3 years of service time. Which is probably why they didnt. Unless youre LA, NY or Boston, you play early. Cohen doesnt care. Spencer Strider sets an Atlanta Braves record with 16 Ks in a game!!!!!! Yeah, selling tickets is all that matters. CBA has no affect on arb money because the union wouldnt let a segment of their members benefit in terms of general contract negotiations. PLAYER. Thats not the point Banjo Billy, If hes not willing to extend again in a year, well awww shucks! He started 20 times and finished three . @bhambrave If you dont know what Super Two means dont try to talk about which players are or arent one. Career Earnings: View Spencer Strider 's Teammates Salaries Current Contract: Fried wasnt this good out of the gate. =========================== The Braves said Tuesday they would push back Strider's next start in the hopes of avoiding a trip to the IL. In Texas, the nicest home I can find in the Dallas area is 20,000 sq ft for $14M. Story put up a 112 OPS+ and 26.8 bWAR in the 6 seasons leading up to his deal with the Red Sox. While Steve offers a hypothesis of free agent years costing $40M or more annually, the reality is Scherzer may be the best pitcher of his generation, Kershaw and Verlander included and his $40M was clearly an overpay, evem on a short deal. Another problem is the harder you throw, the more stress you put on your arm and the more likely you are to get injured. After that 5-2 win over the Philadelphia Phillies, Strider told the team he didn't feel right. Meanwhile Cohen will spend even more and have a $400 mil opening day payroll lol. @mets. Cost of living adjustments are more for your average person. The league-average, for reference, is 29 percent. Hey, do you think the Braves bite the bullet and pay Swanson? I cannot wait for the Braves/Phillies series to start in a few hours. Yanks2- If one argues that, their critical thinking skills would be worthy of criticism. The Mets performance was more surprising than the Braves. Thats an unlikely worst case for a phenomenal SP, but its there. Id lose my crap if Seattle paid Kirby that much and he may have the best control since Greg Maddux with Smoltz level velo. Spencer Strider is currently the starting pitcher position for the Atlanta Braves in Major League Baseball, the senior baseball league of the United States. Braves fans awoke on Monday looking forward to learning more about Striders health and potential availability during the NLDS. Should just stop there because even mentioning that website shows a complete disconnection from reality. What about Georgias racist voting rights? Get over it already, your team choked, you should be used to Choketober and Choketember by now. To qualify for the Super Two designation, players must rank in the top 22 percent, in terms of service time, among those who have amassed between two and three years in the Majors. As the saying goes, a fool and his money will quickly part. . Essentially they trade the risk that he gets hurt and produces nothing in one or more years for the free first free agent year, and the discounted second free agent year assuming hes healthy. He would have extended him for 10 years/$200m. Cant do it? I am sure that actuaries worked hard. Over the next 6 years youd probably end up paying him $40m anyway, making the cost of your gamble roughly $40m, since presumably youre paying the buy out in 2029. And of that, how many non-tech savvy (i.e. With future commitments, he still has a lot to accomplish in his life. Im sure it will be reasonably priced. Yes, he started the season, which means he already has a full year of service time. It allows them to know exactly how much room they have left in the budget. Lordy the braves are waaaaay ahead of the curve in finding talent. If he is not sent down in 2023 he will finish 2023 with 2 years and 3 days of service time. The Red Sox had the opportunity to do so with Betts, Bogaerts, and Devers a few years ago and blew the opportunity. I could be mistaken on this because I dont follow the Braves as closely as you all do; but it seems to me that part of this is AAs (or Braves) intent on establishing the players relationship through goodwill too for the future. See more salaries for 2021. Gerrit Cole was a Yanks fan growing up, nobody with any knowledge ever though L.A. was really an option. No the alternative is giving an extension that builds security for the player and allows them to gain price assurance. For a full look at the Braves' 2022 postseason schedule, click here. early opt out year, incentives based on GG, SS, ASG, MVP votes. Judge is a high strikeout guy whose average is buoyed by his homerun total. Their window didnt change with this signing. The Braves do it again, getting 2 FA years of a superb pitcher (incl an option year, fcol), and they get those years very close to a SPs peak ages. Most pitchers do that. His first full year starting he had a 4.02 ERA. ET, many of these same folks were discussing an extension that could keep the rookie sensation in Atlanta until at least the 2028 season. Quit pretending that every Braves fan supported your ridiculous troll scenario. Doubt the Sox are much happier w/Story, but Red Sox fans would know much more about that than I do. Apple TV games are free this year. For someone like me who can only watch my team on national broadcasts due to the unavailability of my teams cable channel at a decent price, getting to watch them on TV (instead of settling for the radio like usual) a few extra times a season thanks to the Apple deal is great. However, he already has slightly more than a full year of service time. It wouldnt be fair to the rest of the players. Spencer Strider had 202 strikeouts last season and 202 strikeouts over his career. Command was an issue at times in the minors and early in the season, but Strider markedly scaled back on the number of free passes he yielded as the season wore on, finishing out the year with an 8.5% walk rate that was scarcely north of the league average. Then add in the two FA years the Braves control at $22 million each, and this deal is great for the Braves. Its a let me pay you now and you cut me a discount later. Same for TrumboJumbo w/the Angels and Yankee Clipper w/the Yanks. Ride along with Braves pitcher Spencer Strider as he talks about what it's like playing at the big-league level, his favorite music to play on days he starts. It very well could be a bad deal for his team if he cant continue the level of dominance he showed this year or has constant injury problems. Hes expected to get 12 mill next season as an arb 3. Must be a great place to play if they can get all these young guys to sign for long term. My guess is he re-signs w/the Braves. Now if the Braves had Kris Bryanted Strider he would have finished 2024 with just under 3 years of service time and would have been a Super Two that offseason, not the 23-24 offseason. Great job by signing Strider to an extension. Enormous good sense like instead of his 2023 and 2024 contract only counting for $1M against the salary cap each year on a year-to-year deal, He now counts almost $15M against the cap even when hes making $1M a year. Btw, Max Fried and Kyle Wright arent garbage. While I suppose they are blacked out on MLB.tv, but then you can just watch them on Apple TV instead. Atlanta Braves pitcher Spencer Strider records a career-high in strikeouts. PinkFloyed is also excellent. Per SNY's Andy Martino, the Mets are hesitant to go up to four years if another team offered four at a high salary figure for the two-time Cy Young winner, who opted out of the remaining two years of the five-year . https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/super-two-status-set-at-2-116-years-of-service.html. Player page for Spencer Strider of the Atlanta Braves. Many thanks to him. They tended to evaluate the Mets as having the better team, but not by a lot, but were going (fwiw) with experience and so forth. No respect. If Strider had 1.169 time on the MLB roster, then hed be a candidate for Super-Two next year, but hes got 1.003, so he wouldnt ever be classified Super-Two unless they send him down. Google elude. No, hes *NOT* a Super Two candidate. Preferably, youd also buy out another year or two of free agency at that point, as well. Copyright 2000-2023 Sports Reference LLC. So start 4 years of arbitration at $9-10 million. If he doesnt get a full year of service next season, it is because he sucked or he was suspended by the league for performance enhancing substances, lawsuits or criminal issues! Lets say you are going to a MLB game at your local stadium and for-the-sake-of-argument lets say there are only 4 seat choices: bleachers $15, nose-bleeds (2nd & 3rd deck) $40, between 1st and 3rd base behind the dugouts for $100, and a seat in a suite for $150. And Fried is the one you need to worry about locking up. Since Strider got a full year already based on service time it has no bearing here. Strider played collegiate summer baseball for the Falmouth Commodores of the Cape Cod Baseball League in 2018. If the right billionaire acquired them and they signed say Judge, Trea and Arenado, this would be one truly awesome team and their payroll would still be less than several other teams. He only hit the first two weeks he was up. Defending Champs and your slotted at Get Away games. LOL Strider had it Right all along. 2023 Payroll Totals 2023 Active Competitive Balance Tax Totals Note: Tax figures based on payroll data only. One thing is certain: he divides his time between the four MLB teams Spencer Strider- Birth, Age, Ethnicity, Siblings, Education Spencer Strider (left) and Michael Harris II are vying to give the Braves their seventh National League Rookie of the Year. Just a cup of coffee at the ML level. Spencer Strider is one of the best young pitchers in the Atlanta Braves organization. I was a little shocked at how quickly and how high Striders pay jumps. Strider will make $1 million each of the next two seasons and $4 million in 2025. Jansen and Duvall are gone after this yr. Morton, Odorizzi, Yates, and Rosario are gone after next yr. Ozuna will be gone after 2024. Javascript is required for the selection of a player. They will have their hands full if they get past the Phillies in the NLDS. The game will be on WBAL/98 Rock with Geoff Arnold and Ben McDonald. By Steve Adams | October 10, 2022 at 11:03pm CDT. He was the top freshman at Clemson in 2018 before joining MLB, but he missed the season in 2019 due to an injury. Swanson is probably walking. (Age 22-338d, The difference is he was arb eligible a fourth time after 2020 rather than being a free agent outright. If his option is exercised, the deal will be worth $92 million over seven years. Swanson is better then Baez. The remaining $20-25M will be shared with the rest of the guys who arent arb. Plenty that rep for other teams. Injuries are 75% covered by insurance The point being that the new CBA has ZERO effect on arbitration. Those numbers are very reasonable. Strider was the NL Rookie of the Year runner-up to Braves teammate Michael Harris II. However, blocking some types of cookies may impact your experience of the site and the services we are able to offer. The 21-year old made the transition from the bullpen to the starting rotation. Its a league funded thing that every team will chip into $1.66 mil regardless. His decline in velocity at the end of his outing may just be a conditioning issue due to his inactivity. Swansons on the up. So with that logic, lets use his first two years of arbitration to show how much of an overpay the Strider deal is because Ohtani only got like $8.5M for year 1 and 2, with him being a full-time hitter as well. Mets698622(LOL on the 22), Harvey was in no way better than Strider at this stage of his career. If youre going to give out a big extension like this, you should wait until after hes played three years or at least two to make sure hes for real, especially if youre only getting one or two free agent years in exchange. Salaries Awards Draft Leaderboards Cards Proper Name: Spencer Robert Strider High Level: MLB (2021-2022) Positions: P (55) Height: 6-0 Weight: 195 Bats: Right Throws: Right Born: Oct 28,1998 age: 24.116 place: Columbus,OH High School: Christian Academy of Knoxville (Knoxville,TN) colleges: Clemson University (Clemson,SC), Drafted: Players dont decide when they will be traded unless they have a no trade clause. Sure, they have control of Fried/Wright (even via arb), but Strider is the first long-term arm. Name a team who hasnt had pitchers whove fallen apart. You cant because thats the nature of pitchingas DTD said above.. Braves obviously feel Striders an outlier in that respect. Matt Harvey had a higher ERA and lower K/9 and higher BB/9 in his first season. His slap happy approach at the plate seems very much at odds w/the Braves patient, high exit velocity hitting philosophy. Here it is again, for your convenience. Most of the professional commentators (fwiw) picked the Braves on the basis that the Mets had yet to unthrone the kings. The standard Super Two pay scale for him for his remaining years is: $0.7M (league minimum) Adding that extra year of service time will make him eligible. 11h. Geraldo Quintero, IF 8. Obviously there are others, but these two usually seem to have reasonable and unbiased thoughts on their rivals. Would an arbitrator just look at a base salary as the springboard for a raise, or would they consider the bonuses as part of the salary when making those decisions? He will finish the year with exactly ONE FULL YEAR OF SERVICE!! TO make the math easy lets just say by 20%. If he is 2nd in ROY he gets huge bonuses and STILL qualifies for Super Two. It will leave many teams overpaying for pitching and when those arms get injured, most teams will selloff because they wont be able to go to the well and sign another $30M free agent to replace their ace who is gone for 18 months while recovering from surgery. "There's nobody that has higher aspirations or expectations for performance than myself. Its not playing victim. So by the time hes done, the new 0-3 money will end up going in large part to him, Raleigh, Strider, Harris II, and Rutschman. He is definitely a Super Two candidate. Salary: All-Star: World Series: 2021 Atlanta Braves: 65--2022 Atlanta Braves: No I said youre disingenuous because youre trying to use the 2 1/3 ML inning pitched by Strider as a full season comp to Harvey. Tyler Wells gets his first start of the spring against Spencer Strider. They help us to know which pages are the most and least popular and see how visitors move around the site. Story 16.2 WAR The Marlins are one of the furthest teams from elite in the MLB. I used Harvey as a buyer beware caution notice. Not a super bargain like Albies Acuna but its fine. Spencer Strider Rumors & News Bats: R Throws: R Height: 72 Weight: 195 Age 23 Seasons: 1 Salary: 570,500 Birthplace: Columbus, Ohio College: Clemson Rumors & News Videos Photos TalkingChop Feb 8, 2023 Daily Hammer Podcast: The Braves Could Feature Some of the Best Brands in Baseball Short and skinnier pitchers dont hold up well, as a general rule. Theyve got Fried under control through 2024. Bogaerts took an immensely friendly deal.. If his contact rate and barrel rate drops a little, his strikeout total will skyrocket even higher and his homeruns will fall off a cliff. establishing the players relationship through goodwill too for the future. Played 2019 w/a bad heel. Hes top ten talent. Estimate 2023 Retained Salaries Leftover salaries from players who have been traded or released, or buyouts for declined options. If he got close to sniffing free agency, he would have demanded two or three times what we are going to be paying him. You take risks to lock down his first 2 years of FA. The risks are present, but the reward is fantastic, not to mention that it gives you the inside track in a few years to talk a further extension. Theyre in 10000x better position than anyone in that division to be a long term competitor, for sure. If another team over values him based on his 2 week debut, the Braves should deal him. Let's check, How Rich is Duane, What is the Net Worth of Spencer Strider? Players come and go and rosters turn over constantly. Winning always helps too. Rich teams have figured this out. Spencer Strider: . That means he had a good year, unlike 2022. Average MLB salary rose to record $4.22M in . But thanks to you I now have another person on my mute list. Luckily for the Braves, they have Strider under contract through 2029. So $250M from a team in Texas is worth $175M, while the offer from the Yankees or Mets for $250M is worth only $150M due to the tax difference. Golden struck out 276 in his rookie campaign. Ya this was a massive overpay for his final 2 arb years even if they get 2028 and an option for 29.
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